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FrankTrollman wrote:
So long as I continue to hang out with educated people and avoid the deep south on days that it isn't being washed away, the majority of people I run into are Obama supporters. [/url]

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You'd be surprised at how many people 'round here support Obama. Of course, that's the local area (which is the second-largest city in the state) and in people my age (College-age). McCain still won Alabama...But the situation's not *quite* as bad as people think.
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Maxus wrote:You'd be surprised at how many people 'round here support Obama. Of course, that's the local area (which is the second-largest city in the state) and in people my age (College-age). McCain still won Alabama...But the situation's not *quite* as bad as people think.
Yeah, that was one of the wierdest things about watching the election returns by county. Texas was blue for a bit, as the big cities voted strongly for Obama, and other big cities in the south did similar things. Too bad they couldn't beat out the rural vote.
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TarkisFlux wrote:
Maxus wrote:You'd be surprised at how many people 'round here support Obama. Of course, that's the local area (which is the second-largest city in the state) and in people my age (College-age). McCain still won Alabama...But the situation's not *quite* as bad as people think.
Yeah, that was one of the wierdest things about watching the election returns by county. Texas was blue for a bit, as the big cities voted strongly for Obama, and other big cities in the south did similar things. Too bad they couldn't beat out the rural vote.
Seriously.

Unfortunately, there's a strong core of people down here who think anyone can be successful if they just work hard. And I just don't have the heart to tell them that there's not a Life Regulatory Commission that makes sure good things happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people.

Well, I do have the heart. I just don't have the eloquence.
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Maxus wrote:Well, I do have the heart. I just don't have the eloquence.
Eloquence? You can just make bad things happen to them without ever challenging the likely assumption that they're good people (since they're likely of the privileged classes already). In fact, the more you make bad things happen to them, the more people'll convince themselves that you're bad and them good. Actions > words.

I'm not (necessarily) advocating killing them with fire. If you get creative (which I admit isn't easy, and I'm sure I'm completely subject to failing at it), you can do it well within the law.
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FrankTrollman wrote:The thing is that it's not just selection bias. Evangelicals favored McCain 3:1. And the Washington Post says that Obama's new wining coalition was:
Washington Post wrote:The Democrats appear to have built a majority across a wide, and expanding, share of the electorate — young voters, Latinos and other ethnic minorities, and highly educated whites in growing metropolitan areas.

The Republicans appear at the moment to be marginalized, hanging on to a coalition that may shrink with time — older, working-class and rural white voters, increasingly concentrated in the Deep South, Great Plains and Appalachia.
So long as I continue to hang out with educated people and avoid the deep south on days that it isn't being washed away, the majority of people I run into are Obama supporters. Obama supporters are literally more intelligent than McCain supporters.
At least online, I tended to notice both smart and dumb Obama supporters. There were a few rational McCain supporters, but they were completely overshadowed by the morons.
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My experience was that the reasonable McCain supporters tended to be one-Issue voters.

And even half of those folks weren't reasonable: witness the gun-nut obliviousness to Obama's realization that new gun laws will cost more political capital than he has - or the god hates shrimp types, who don't get that keeping kosher is a crucial moral imperative, but passing laws to make the goyim do it is a breach of the first Amendment - or the people who think that somehow they'd ever be able to earn a quarter million a year as a plumber under the slower-growth economy and regressively draconian anti-urban, anti-working class tax policies of a republican administration.
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Josh_Kablack wrote:or the god hates shrimp types, who don't get that keeping kosher is a crucial moral imperative, but passing laws to make the goyim do it is a breach of the first Amendment
Is that site serious(ly retarded), or am I seeing one of the greatest trolls in existance?
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Heath Robinson wrote:
Josh_Kablack wrote:or the god hates shrimp types, who don't get that keeping kosher is a crucial moral imperative, but passing laws to make the goyim do it is a breach of the first Amendment
Is that site serious(ly retarded), or am I seeing one of the greatest trolls in existance?
look at the whole site, it's very good.
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Heath Robinson wrote:
Josh_Kablack wrote:or the god hates shrimp types, who don't get that keeping kosher is a crucial moral imperative, but passing laws to make the goyim do it is a breach of the first Amendment
Is that site serious(ly retarded), or am I seeing one of the greatest trolls in existance?
They're dead serious.

Seriously. :bored:
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Talisman wrote:They're dead serious.

Seriously. :bored:
Hey, in my defense I literally had a few seconds and only got around to skimming the front page. I had an appointment 1 hour after I got up. Yes, I do have a major enough addiction that the first thing I do after getting up is read forums for most of an hour.

It's not a major impact on my life! Really! Those missed lectures have nothing to do with it.
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Talisman wrote: They're dead serious.
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

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By the way, Joe the Plumber said that he felt 'dirty' campaigning with McCain on the Glenn Beck show:

I lol'ed.


By the way, I know that it's been over a month, but, Obama won Indiana?! Are you shitting me up the ass?! Obama won KKK land?
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It is shocking. Apparently, the black vote made the turnout in Indianapolis and the Chicago suburbs high enough to outweigh the Bible Belt North rural vote.
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The heavy primary campaigning there probably didn't hurt either. Indiana and North Carolina were the last two big primaries, and Obama squeaked by in both states in the general.
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Joe the Plumber is still just a Republican hack. The story they are trying to paint is that McCain lost them the election. Except for the people who are claiming that Palin lost them the election. The idea that possibly the fact that for the last fifty years their plans have literally never worked can't possibly be the reason, it has to be either the fault of McCain being too moderate or Palin being too crazy.

Expect lots of Republican dick waving over that exact question for the next four years. Which since we will be in a Recession for the next four years, is really good news. If the Republicans were anything like unified they might be able to retake government and run it even farther into the ground.

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To be fair to the McCain/Palin blamers, failed and failing policies (combined with exploiting racial divisions) won them a lot of presidential elections in the last 50 years. That the actual context has changed could well go right over their heads. Particularly the neocon whackjobs who are devoted to ideology uber alles, especially reason.
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